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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Sewanee: The University of the South → University of the South, No consensus, 24 May 2010, discussion
RM, Sewanee: The University of the South → The University of the South, Not moved, 9 April 2019, discussion
RM, Sewanee: The University of the South → Sewanee (university), No consensus, 6 September 2021, discussion

Requested move 6 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus.

We have 3 editors (including the proposer) supporting a move per WP:COMMONNAME and 3 editors opposing per WP:NATURAL, so there is no consensus for the proposed move. There are also 3 editors supporting an alternative move Sewanee → Sewanee (disambiguation) with Sewanee: The University of the South → Sewanee. That move would be procedurally incorrect per WP:RMCI: A move request about moving X to Y should never be closed in such a way as to require page Z to move if Z wasn't listed in the original move request. In any case, it isn't clear whether there's a consensus for that move. As this RM has closed with no consensus, a fresh RM may be presented for the alternative proposal, including both pages, if editors consider this would be a desirable move. (non-admin closure) Havelock Jones (talk) 07:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sewanee: The University of the South → Sewanee (university) – WP:COMMONNAME. The current name is redundant and stilted (and probably fails WP:THE). Except for very few formal contexts, the university is typically referred to by one name or the other, not both at the same time. All three people who commented on the previous RM two and a half years ago said that the common name is simply "Sewanee". As commented in 2010, "Sewanee" even appears on the university's diplomas. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support move per nom. O.N.R. ^(talk) 22:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NATURAL. If this needs to be moved at all, it should be to Sewanee as the WP:primary topic, or to The University of the South, both of which are both common and natural. Station1 (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- No objection to Sewanee → Sewanee (disambiguation) with Sewanee: The University of the South → Sewanee. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Agree with Station1 on this. Move uni page to "Sewanee" and then DAB for other usage. GreaterPonce665 ^(TALK) 18:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NATURAL. Bait30 ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 02:30, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Any comment on the idea of moving this to Sewanee? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - BarrelProof, no opinion per se, but I do believe the dab pages of Sewanee, Swanee, Swanee River, Suwannee, and Suwanee need to be combined per WP:DABCOMBINE. Suwanee already contains entries for "Suwannee" even though that spelling has its own DAB page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bait30 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The single-word name is commonest even on its own website. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NATURAL. Jonathunder (talk) 15:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Any comment on the idea of moving this to Sewanee? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure. "Sewanee" is clearly the most common way to refer to this institution, but so many other things are also called that. I'll wait to see what others think. Jonathunder (talk) 14:25, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - It seems like the other potentially confused topics have a somewhat different spelling and pronunciation or are much less prominent or are basically subtopics of this one. For example, there is a town, but it says the town is best known as the home of the university, so it seems like basically a university town that is mostly subordinate to the institution. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:47, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I previously closed this RM, but I have reverted myself following discussion here. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Sewanee News

Is the Sewanee News alumni magazine still around? I'm reading a copy of it on Internet Archive from 1978 and it's quite good. It's amazing what a difference it can make when a school has a literary tradition to uphold. Most old magazines from 1978 are barely readable today, but this stands out and passes the test of time. If it is still around, maybe mention it in the article in the alumni section? Other university articles, such as Stanford, mention the alumni magazines. Viriditas (talk) 22:33, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Academic Research and Critical Thinking

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2023 and 6 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Odonncb0 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Lmminich (talk) 17:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]