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Thames and Severn Canal

Thanks for editing: please see my comment on the talk page. You added to an existing section, but fundamentally this is very odd because "Phase 1b" is on a different canal, the Stroudwater. So I think this is odd. Incidentally, I could not find any confirmation that the bid has actually been made on the Cotswold Canals trust site; are you sure the reference you gave is accurate? Can you share anything online? (Please reply here) Imaginatorium (talk) 08:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty confident that navvies is correct. The current edition isn't online yet.©Geni (talk) 20:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

The bid is mentioned on their site here http://www.cotswoldcanals.com/pages/posts/saul-to-stonehouse-restoration-funding-bid-809.php?p=5 .©Geni (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

We177

Am I correct in thinking that you took the photo at File:We177 science museum.jpg at the Science Museum, London (and not some other science museum)? And if so, that means its safe for me to list that museum as another home for a surviving example at WE.177#Retirement, right (it wasn't some special travelling exhibit that you saw)? -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 00:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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Request to use photo

Hi Geni,

I must say your photographs are amazing! I have been experimenting myself with light painting and am just wondering if I may use this photograph in the background of my photograph. Of course I will credit you by posting a link in the description of your page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Southampton#/media/File:Southampton_docks_at_night_4_seconds.JPG

Thankyou in advance.

Aidanr97 (talk) 03:02, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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Infobox US university ranking

Hi Geni, I counted the transclusions of {{Infobox US university ranking}}, and it appears it has less than 390 transclusions, which does not make this highly visible in my opinion. Note the thresholds described by Template:High-use and Template:High-risk. I've seen templates at indef semiprot while citing Wikipedia:High-risk templates, and believe that semiprot should suffice. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Scratch that. I now believe the level is acceptable both to prevent unregistered vandalism, and to encourage discussion. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:50, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Pier, Southampton

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Wey & Arun lock photo identification?

Hi Geni

As I am now doing volunteer work restoring the Wey and Arun Canal, I feel it is my duty to get its article up-to-date.

I have updated the map (several times) and made some other changes, with more to come when time permits (as the article is badly lagging the restoration progress).

Anyway...

You uploaded a photo of a lock on the canal, but it does not identify which one. Can you try to work out where you took the photo, please? (I know it was 10 years ago!)

Cheers! -- EdJogg (talk) 17:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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• The image has been rescheduled.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:25, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Oriole Park at Camden Yards article vandalism

Huge thanks for blocking Bensaw11 for blatant vandalism of this article. The Ink Daddy! (talk) 02:29, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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Biber submarine

Biber find in The Netherlands.

Dear Geni,

With regards to the biber attack on the bridge at Nijmegen i think i can provide you with additional information. As it happens the remains one of the subs used in that attack are now on display in the Fort of Pannerden. A fort located very close to the location of the find. I work there as a volunteer and as such I think I could lend you a hand getting some information. With kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigifrith76 (talk • contribs) 09:31, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid I've not worked on that article in years. If you have stuff to add I'd suggest raising it on the talkpage or adding it directly to nl:Biber_(onderzeeboot). Alternatively you could try contacting wikimedia Nederland who are probably in a better position to work with you.©Geni (talk) 16:29, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Paddlers

As we were discussing.--ClemRutter (talk) 09:13, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Mass protection

Why did you mass-protect every template used on "the Hillary page"? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:27, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

too bad we don't have Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Cascading_protection for levels other than full. Frietjes (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection on templates

It looks like you have added extended confirmed protection to Template:Obama cabinet and Template:US First Ladies, though those pages have not been vandalized recently. Note that the announcement above from September 23rd states that "Extended confirmed protection may only be used in cases where semi-protection has proven ineffective. It should not be used as a first resort." Additionally, Hillary Clinton itself is semi-protected, so preemptively protecting subcomponents with a higher level of protection is odd.

I assume this was a mistake, perhaps a misclick. Would you mind changing the protection level of these templates to semiprotected? Mamyles (talk) 14:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of ThinkPoint for deletion

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John Reaves sent me your way...

Can I get a pair of admin eyes on a couple of Commons procedural things that have stalled? Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01

43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Craigievar Express

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Reliable sources on the YouCaring page

Hello Geni, thanks for taking the time to review my post. I'm just wondering, which pieces of information are lacking reliable citation? I have attempted to provide as much citation as possible but I will continue to edit the page until I've met your requirements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:5CA0:D4C:C030:63D8:48CE:6912 (talk) 10:18, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

All of it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQPq1VLXY7U is a self published video. Heat street is never a reliable source. http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2104057-Zarna-Joshi-is-now-crowdfunding-because-of-Hugh-Mungus is forum thread which again aren't considered reliable sources. Neither are go fund me pages or individual tweets.©Geni (talk) 10:22, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Given the context of the post, referring to YouTube videos and GoFundMe pages, those actually do provide proof that what the Wikipedia entry is claiming is 100% true. For example, when I say that a YouTube video was created on a certain date by a certain creator and refer to that video as proof, it is credible evidence that what I'm claiming is true (same with the GoFundMe page).I have edited several of the sources to be more reliable, and I believe it's a matter of opinion that Heat Street is not reliable. In this case I believe the opinion is wrong, because Heat Street provides links and videos that serve as proof to the claims made in the Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:5CA0:D4C:C030:63D8:48CE:6912 (talk) 10:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

We are talking about a wikipedia article not a forum post. Different standards apply. Specifically WP:RS. Forum posts, and self published youtube vids do not meet them. The rest runs into problems with the No original research Policy. That leaves you with Heat Street and that isn't a reliable source at the best of times and certianly isn't a reliable source for Biographies of living persons issues.©Geni (talk) 10:35, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Upon some searching, both Heat Street and h3h3Productions' videos have been used as citation on other Wikipedia articles about this incident. Once the internet grabs a hold of this story, I will be able to replace the youtube links and twitter posts with articles about them. Once again, simply saying Heat Street is not reliable doesn't make that true; the articles I've cited from Heat Street are indeed reliable sources on this topic/incident. This happened only hours ago, so primary sources are really the only source at the moment. I didn't realize Wikipedia was against primary sources of information, which seems odd to me considering the citation leads readers directly to the source and provides ample evidence that what the Wikipedia entry is saying is indeed true.

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers

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WS is now slowly developing with less conflicts. I guess you have moved away to other things, but would kindly like to ask you to support with vote here, so we can reach the 25 votes minimum rule in order to be able to get local Checkusers, and get a local policy for CU, which will be the first step of developing more local solutions on WS. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Union Jack

Hi Geni. You changed Breitbart and another source to the FT which is subscription only. I replaced it, not in disputation but so that the story could be understood by those who can't access the FT site. The story looks to be uncontroversial and reported in a straight forward way. Clearly you don't like Breitbart (though I confess I can't see any problems with this article), would you perhaps expand the wiki page then so that it can be understood without needing to read the FT site? At the moment it reads like a bit of trivia. I'd have raised this on the article's talk page, but I wouldn't want to publicly criticise and admin or an editor of your standing. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:18, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

On this day, 12 years ago...

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Re: Draft:Blue Funnel Group

Re: Draft:Blue Funnel Group ... appreciate any comments. Despite it being Draft AfC i'm probably more likely to just move it into position myself. Thanks Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Request to lower protection level for Template:United States presidential election, 2008

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Kojima-related vandalism

Could you protect Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain too please? --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 05:45, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Also Guillermo del Toro, The Room (film), Tommy Wiseau‎ and Mads Mikkelsen‎. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 05:48, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Konami‎ and What Remains of Edith Finch please. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 05:59, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Shitposting, Electronic Entertainment Expo 2017, and Kopps. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 06:03, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Soulcalibur VI, Transgender sexuality --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 06:12, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Aryan, Polygon (website), Bethesda Game Studios. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Electronic game, ETV Network. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 06:23, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

[1] and [2] were responsible for some of the vandalism, idk if you guys can affect them on Twitter. If not, remove my message. --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 07:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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11+ years of adminship

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online?

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Cold you take a look at the two pages, and consider renaming the original page to World War Z (2013 video game), and the second to World War Z (2019 video game), with the original page used as a disambiguation.

This seems uncontroversial to me. I leave it to your judgement. There is no real problem with the current state. Thanks.Xoool (talk) 20:02, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

[edit2] [edit] - I can't add the hatnote needed at World War Z (video game) to link to World War Z (Sabre Interactive video game) .. Xoool (talk) 20:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC) .. seems I can .. Xoool (talk) 20:06, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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You handled that smarter and more robustly than I was proposing to do. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

To be clear, I'm saying this was a good unblock. An admin does not have only two choices: (1) indef block with no talk page access, or (2) supporting harassment. Talking to a long term productive editor with a clean block log like he's a human being, telling him what he's done wrong, not to do it again, and if he does he's going to get blocked and unlikely to be unblocked again, that's the mark of a good admin. Nobody here "supports" harassment, nobody here "basically told someone to find a new way to harass other people", and to say that Geni did so is gaslighting. Gaslighting from a different end of the spectrum than I'm used to seeing it, but gaslighting. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Well said Floq. Geni, the last thing we need is another of our more conscientious admins resigning. Hopefully no one will even want you to once things have calmed down a little. FeydHuxtable (talk) 22:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking me, Geni, I appreciate it. I hope you will address the concerns of the other editors below, because I don’t want that any harm to you (or anyone else) he caused from this matter. You have my assurance that I have (and had) no intentions of harassing anyone. starship.paint (talk) 01:03, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Please resign

I've asked you on IRC, but I'll make it official: please resign. You violated policy by unblocking both against the consensus of administrators and without talking to the blocking admin, who objected, and was engaged in an unblock discussion. You also made it easier for people to harass others. This isn't good, and only makes our project worse. You basically told someone to find a new way to harass other people. That's not okay, and I'm honestly shocked that any administrator here would do so. I won't push it further, but I do want to make the request on-wiki. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I concur with this. There’s a difference between a user demonstrating that they understand and will not do it again and blindly unblocking while most of your colleagues disagree. By unblocking with no actual assurance from the user and in spite of opposition, you’re effectively condoning the behavior. You are proving WMF right isn’t their statement that the English Wikipedia is unable or unwilling to deal with this type of behavior and as someone who’s been on the receiving end of it, it makes me sick. Praxidicae (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I think your resigning over this is more than is necessary. However, I echo that this was a real, considerate, and destructive mistake. This was a good block and a consensus for how it could be reversed had been agreed to. Starship showing some understanding of why the block was levied is an important protection of important behavior policies. As I noted here and to you on IRC, I think this kind of rogue use of the toolset makes life for those of us who are here in good faith, but lacking the buttons of being a sysop, a worse place. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I'll echo Tony's request here. Administrators like you who ignore consensus and enable harassment by trying to brush stuff under the carpet like you did with your unblock of Starship.paint is the reason we have such an atmosphere of abusive behaviour on the project. It's the reason that the Foundation are now having to step in with office actions to deal with it. It's the reason this project is becoming more and more unwelcoming, and why we're losing so many people. The requests that we made of Starship were fairly easy for them to meet, and designed to push them towards better interactions with fellow editors; instead you've basically taught them that if they get in trouble, they just need to wait a while for another admin if the first few on-scene don't immediately unblock. It makes you look like you like harassment, it makes you look like an enabler. Is that really the persona you want to show off? Is that really what you thing the community as a whole should be doing? stwalkerster (talk) 22:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I concur with everyone above. Performing this unblock when you have been inactive for so long shows how out of touch you are with the way things should be handled the and the respect that you should show to the other administrators. It is clear that you do not understand that, so you should revert your own action or resign. Nihlus 23:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

On one hand, we can't afford to lose more admins with so many asking to resign at BN. On the other hand, Doc James said repeatedly that he was reviewing this block and would unblock once he got assurances that Starship.paint wouldn't out any more WMF staff and you preemptively unblocked him first. Why, why would you do this when another admin had taken responsibility for reviewing this block? Bad, bad move. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

We can't afford to have rogue administrators who condone harassment. Period. Praxidicae (talk) 23:57, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Praxidicae, I doubt Geni is condoning harassment. I also still don't think they should resign. But these sorts of rogue actions are indeed why we operate on consensus and Geni should have participated in the ongoing discussion among sysops (and others) rather than taking unilateral action in a way against general procedures for this thing and in a way that made it impossible for those respecting discussion and consensus to reverse. As such, I do look forward, in the spirit of WP:ADMINACCT to reading Geni's response to the concerns presented here. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:12, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Eh its 4am here. On balance things seem stable for the time being and I don't really want to risk a debate that might complicate that. How about next weekend?©Geni (talk) 03:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Considering you haven't edited your talk page in years until now, I don't think that's appropriate. You should either make a full explanation here, or you should go to WP:BN and resign. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:24, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I certainly wasn't expecting a response immediately. I was hoping for a response before a week from now, and admit to a little bit of additional concern that you would take a clearly controversial action knowing you wouldn't be around to explain yourself, but also do understand that real life intervenes. As such I continue to look forward to your thoughts at your earliest Wiki convenience. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

• You have misused your tools and position.--MONGO (talk) 01:12, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• Please don't resign Geni. How about an arbitration case on Ballioni's block and Geni's unblock to clear it up? There are comments that Balloni's talk page access removal was undue and that the indef block was excessive and comments that Geni's unblock was incorrect also so there is a value in the arbs looking at this. Govindaharihari (talk) 03:26, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Well, WP:AN would be the first place, but that makes little sense for a block I don't want restored now that an explanation and commitment to not harass has been given. But an explanation does need to be forthcoming. He hasn't edited his talk page in years before this so "I'll wait until next week" isn't really helpful. I'd even be fine with "Look, I messed up, I won't do it again" or "Tony was completely wrong and an idiot and I won't be apologizing for these reasons." but he does need to explain why he went against policy and consensus. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• Resign please. Your unblock shows absolute lack of judgement. Five administrators had warned against a unilateral unblock – and you went and actually did that! Please resign immediately and this doesn't need to become an elongated ArbCom case. If you don't think you can respond to our messages in a timely manner, but can unblock in an untimely manner going against admin-consensus, that's reason enough for you to stop using the bit. Lourdes 03:50, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• As currently the community are so highly charged on this issue, I'll open an arb case request to sort this out. Govindaharihari (talk) 03:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Govindaharihari: please don't. Allow Geni time to respond. While an arb case might be required in the near future, I think it is premature to open one now. Killiondude (talk) 04:06, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Govindaharihari, That seems highly premature. ArbCom likes the community to have exhausted all options first. We have not exhausted all options yet. My concerns are not letting process and reasonable discussion (aka our attempts to form consensus) come to a natural conclusion in one place, let us not make a mistake by failing to let it play out in a second place. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:06, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

At the moment the community is so focussed on this that imo as you can see on this page massive requests for Geni to resign that dispute resolution with the usual user channels is impossible to be neutral, only arbcom remain neutral at this time. Govindaharihari (talk) 04:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Govindaharihari, no one but you wants this. This is the last thing the community needs at this time. I’ve said above I’m willing to not go further if there’s some explanation. Lourdes is asking not to have a drawn out case. Seriously, just let us talk this out. Dispute resolution hasn’t been exhausted, and ArbCom is a last resort. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

There is no neutral dispute resolution in this case, you are asking for her resignation, if you continue to do that there is currently only arbcom that is neutral, no dispute resolution is available. If you retract your request that she resigns I won't post it. Govindaharihari (talk) 04:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Govindaharihari, through discussion we can reach consensus. Perhaps after reading more from Geni some of those who are suggesting Geni resign will change their mind. Things can happen slowly on Wikipedia. That's OK. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

• Tempest in a teapot. Tony was a bit heavy handed with both the duration and taking away talk page access. A simple 72 hour block would have been sufficient to get the point across. Geni was extraordinarily bold, but this place has gotten to where everyone gets butthurt over an admin being bold. It didn't used to be that way. If any admin is going to be bold, better he do it to unblock someone who is likely to not repeat the mistake, such as the case here. Admin are going to step on each other's toes sometimes. Making a big deal of it seems rather petty. I've been here long enough that I've been on both sides. When someone unblocked my block (and yes, the person was blocked soon after), I voiced my opinion and moved on. When I've unblocked someone against the wishes of the admin, they were pissed off but moved on. Big Fucking Deal. We don't own our admin actions, we do them on behalf of the community. Had I not turned in my admin bit, I would restored the TPA at a minimum myself, so Doc James and I agree on that as well. There are no bad guys here, just some overreactions on everyone's part. Admins bump heads sometimes. Move on like professionals. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 12:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• I'm not here to ask you to resign. I'm spending some time with my grandson, and I was amazed to see that when I was away from the computer for just a few hours, I came back to see starship.paint with an in-deff. I finally found some time today to look at the history, and as I started reading that editors talk page I was very impressed with the discussion. (Particular kudos to Doc James) especially in light of heightened current tensions, that page started out as a model of how disputes should be handled. Tony had legitimate concerns, and participants were working through issues and you could see it headed toward a successful resolution… then you stepped in. I find it difficult to believe that you read the entire back story and didn't reach the same conclusion — namely, that this small issue was on its way to a fine resolution. I can't think of anything other than two options — one option is that you jumped the gun without doing appropriate homework, and the second option is that you did some homework and still thought barging in was the right option. Neither option speaks well for your judgment. That said, it is a tense time, and my hope is that you will read carefully what led up to the situation, and come back with an appropriate statement. Take some time, there's no rush.S Philbrick(Talk) 13:52, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• I get that harassment is of particular importance under the current climate, I also get that there needed to be a discussion about the appropriateness of interjecting in a claimed unblock, the concerns over the kind of judgement that lead to this decision being made and whether there were any violations of policy and accepted procedure… But in future, can everyone please leave out the ad hominem imputations, the hyperbole, the poorly substantiated assumptions and the premature demands requests for resignation. There was no reason this couldn’t be approached in a measured, factual and professional manner. Promethean (talk) 13:10, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

• Well, welcome back to editing this month. I notice that, leave this month, you've contributed only around 190 odd edits since early 2012. This may be a good time for you to read up on what has changed in our policies and guidelines since you were gone and how the community perceives these issues now. Thanks, Lourdes 17:01, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Lourdes: what edits are you talking about? Acc. this they've made ~3,000 edits since 2012...were you thinking of their unblocking? ——SerialNumber54129 17:28, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

• Thank you for the welcome back Lourdes and for the concern about whether or not I'm up-to-date on policy. Although I haven't been editing during the time-frame you've indicated, I have been keeping relatively up to date with en-wiki affairs. I initially understood your response as being related to the civility related concerns, but it occurred to me after that you were probably addressing the concern that the request for resignation may be premature. On that topic, please see my response to Tony below; My only interest was in ensuring Geni was heard following people noting their profound objection, prior to those people making requests for resignation. I believe this is a fair and reasonable approach, but readily concede that there may have been more conversation on that point than appears here; If that is needed the case, please accept accept my apologies. Promethean (talk) 01:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

• Serial Number 54129, I think Lourdes was referring to Promethean. Since this is directed at me, I'll respond: Promethean, I don't think this is premature or hyperbolic. Geni's unblock sent the message You can be blocked for an unequivocal violation of the harassment policy, have multiple reviewing administrators agree the block was justified, and then have a random admin come out of nowhere and unblock you without requiring any commitment to respect other people. I think that condones harassment, and as Lourdes said, isn't really how unblocks are done anymore. Cowboy unblocks are much less socially acceptable now than they were 7 years ago. At least two other administrators and a global sysop agree with me on this, so it isn't like I'm alone in this view, and documenting it on-wiki is important in my opinion
  That being said, I'm of the view that that there's a big difference between "should resign" and "ArbCom should force it" and like I said in my initial post, I had zero intent of taking it beyond making the request here. Geni has responded to Barkeep49 on their talk page, with an explanation I don't agree with, but at least it was an explanation. This has been documented if it happens again, and that's important. Like I said above, I'm willing to let this go, with my personal view still being that we should not have administrators that condone harassment through their actions, either intentionally or unintentionally. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:20, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the explanation TonyBallioni; Being completely honest your contribution to this thread wasn't of any concern to me in terms of civilty. In expressing a desire for a more civil conversation, I was more concerned by comments containing imputations such as that Geni acted in bad faith, that they were a harassment enabler/supporter, or that their decision-making was everything that's wrong with the project. These three things were, in my view, bordering in infractions of WP:AGF, WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL respectively, as well as being unsubstantiated hyperbole in the latter instance. With regard to the requests for resignation being premature, the main concern was that it didn't appear that Geni had the chance to further explain their action in light of people having raised their profound objection, prior to those people requesting Geni's resignation. Promethean (talk) 23:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Geni, just a reminder that some Arbs are waiting for your statement at the above case request. starship.paint (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Re: Recent unblock±

Thanks for your explanation of the unblock. I am responding here because other discussion has been held here and so keeping it in place with the rest seems useful. Your message is certainly thoughtful and reasonable. It is one I still must disagree with and will register that here but please feel no need to further respond if you don't care to.

You message frames it as one (banned) editor against one sysop. This is not what the history shows in my reading as it was not one sysop who felt something. It was multiple. There were, in fact, multiple offers of people who offered language that starship could give to remove the block, though admittedly one of those who made the offer lost their ability to follow through due to resignation. I also continue to find your thinking that action is necessary over communication and consensus to be one that makes me feel less. That someone could track down other accounts of mine and make demands of me is of concern to me as someone who does not edit under their name. My guess is that you are correct that starship will not repeat this, but that does not make the original issue not an issue. I have more to say but have already prattled on long enough so I will just conclude with an additional thank you for the response. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thank you Geni for your understanding and empathy during my block incident, I really appreciate it. I didn't back down initially because I hadn't fully understood the policy, I would have once I did (and it was eventually explained well enough by Levivich so I did understand). All the best! starship.paint (talk) 08:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Shouldn't people add the Non-free music video screenshot tag instead of a delete?The Unbeholden (talk) 08:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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Do you have any third partly reliable sources showing that a change of ownership has taken places?©Geni (talk) 19:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, please have a look for this user ExperiencedArticleFixer which seems to spam his job cross wiki. Thanks. --Ignisdelavega (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Ididn't know there was a test7. Stopped counting at 5. --Deepfriedokra (talk)

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Hey, I noticed that back in 2016 you gave Template:Obama cabinet template-level protection as a lock-down of everything transcluded on Hillary Clinton. As Hillary Clinton's article is now only semi-protected, dropping the protection here would probably be appropriate. The template only has 56 transclusions - not widely-used. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 05:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

done.©Geni (talk) 14:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for the block

Though I'm advocating for a longer block on the IP, as explained here [4]. This is a long term disruption, with plenty of copyright violations lined up in their article drafts. Hasn't acknowledged the previous messages and warnings. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Going beyond 31 for a first block is kinda iffy.©Geni (talk) 18:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Much appreciated--I think they've worked long and hard to earn a stronger block on the basis of all the plagiarism alone. But the history suggests this won't be their last vacation. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I was confused why the block log was clean up it is what it is.©Geni (talk) 18:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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Nasal sex sounds like it would have been amazing

Shame it got deleted. What was it even about? Maybe recreate as a humor page? :) Dronebogus (talk) 12:43, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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Why did you edit Igor out of the Tor missile system page? :(((

I would just like to know, that’s all 85.66.125.107 (talk) 14:18, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

No evidence of operation. What limited operation we have seen of captured Russian equipment by Ukrainian units has been by national defence units.©Geni (talk) 15:12, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

So if Igor posted a video of himself operating it, would he be allowed on the list?

I can absolutely understand why he wouldn't be, but I quite like the idea of some guy in Ukraine getting to be on this list... Britishpersonguy (talk) 20:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

If a reliable source covered him operating it then probably although given its a multi person system and should be password protected its unlikely that any operation could take place outside the context of national defence units.©Geni (talk) 06:29, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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President Clinton

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Hi there! I see you changed at least one of the lead images of a Foden wagon on the Steam Wagon page. Editorially I wonder if a photo of a wagon on solid tyres might be a better choice? Given that pneumatic tyres only really appeared around 1940, so for the last 5 years of the “prime” steam wagon era (say - 1905-1935), then it seems like we are unbalancing photos relative to the history.

In an ideal world, I suppose the best range of pictures might be an early Foden on solids and a late six wheeled wagon on pneumatics, ideally with both on the road (from personal experience I know steam wagons are like a fish out of water on a grass field!)? EddieWalters (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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Prague shooting

In the Daily Telegraph article, the shooter is mentioned by name as David Kozak. It is also known information that said shooter has been eliminated. So I’d like to ask why you removed this information. 188.231.9.162 (talk) 18:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

didn't see it in a scan of the header and the rest didn't load.©Geni (talk) 18:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Geni, I'm spamming everyone from the Portsmouth meetup last year. I'm hosting a meetup in Brighton on 3 February 2024 if you're interested. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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3. Since IUPAC is the official authority for chemistry, any decent WP article on a chemistry concept needs to include the relevant IUPAC definition.
4. Our group of chemists hope to add a few thousand such definitions over the coming years, so we want to get the format right.

I wanted to ask how you think these definitions should be done, given the above constraints? We have a range of options in my Sandbox page, so by all means let me know which format you like (plus any you don't like!). Our preferred format currently is Image with caption link. If you have any alternative formats, by all means add them into my talk page so we can take a look.

Many thanks, Walkerma (talk) 18:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Point?

And your point is? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Thank you for your amazing contributions to Wikipedia during your time as an Admin! MolecularPilot (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

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		This award is given in recognition to Geni for collecting more than 5 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Non-free Philippines government

Template:Non-free Philippines government has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Qurna Queen

On 30 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qurna Queen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Qurna Queen's tomb may be the only complete royal burial exported in its entirety from Egypt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qurna Queen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Qurna Queen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Continental I-1430

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Elf darts?

Hello Geni, A photo of yours has fascinated me, as i cant figure out myseum is holding them and i would like to reach out to them to research further. They were arowheads turned. Into amulets and called elf darts.they were said to be from Italy, but looked like an English museum...

Hoping you might be illing and able to tell me where said photo was taken and whether you might have any more photo views that show other objects or these in more detail?

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration, Joe Seeksearchandgrow (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Elf-Arrows.JPG? Pitt rivers in oxford. Catalogue entry here.©Geni (talk) 06:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The Guidance Barnstar

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		Thank you for the help finding and sorting through those sources! I was able to create Amat-Mamu and Amat-Mamu (daughter of Sin-ilum) using them. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Might consider revoking TPA

On this one 79.33.155.132 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) TornadoLGS (talk) 03:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Waveforms as derivative works

Hi, Geni. You briefly discussed the use of audio waveform images back in 2008 (Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions/Archive/2008/September#Screenshots_of_copyrighted_Audio_files). This topic has recently come up at Talk:Amen_break#Waveform, when a file marked PD was used on the main page as part of DYK. While I don't think there's any benefit in continuing the discussion on that article, I thought you might be interested that the topic has crept up again. MIDI (talk) 09:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

OX 9048 on TV

Hi, this Sentinel steam lorry was on BBC South Today just now. I can't find any pics on Commons; do you have any? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/12P Pons–Brooks

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DYK for Shrine of Taharqa

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