Talk:Rodolfo Graziani

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Graziani never served in the Italo-Turkish War as he was bitten by a snake in Eritrea which resulted in him being hospitalized. He briefly served in Libya in 1914 before being sent to fight in the alps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.26.189.187 (talk) 08:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

In 1950, he was imprisoned,

In 1950, he was imprisoned, for 19 years, for his collaboration with the Nazis. He was released a few months later.

Am I reading this correctly to say: "In 1950, he was sentenced to 19 years in prison for collaboration with the Nazis. He was released a few months later." and not, "In 1950, he was imprisoned for 19 years for...He was released a few months after he had served his entire 19-year sentence."? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanKeshet (talk • contribs)

He served X months of his 19 year sentence. Dietary Fiber

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Wasn't he nicknamed

Wasn't he nicknamed electric beard?Dermo69

No that was an Itallian general named Berganzoli (spelling?) who surrendered to the British and it was "Electric Wiskers"

Annibale Bergonzoli --NEMT 04:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

War criminal status

"...and a war criminal responsible for thousands of Libyan and Ethiopian civilian deaths." As far as I know, Graziani was not convicted of war crimes committed during the Italo-Turkish War or Second Italo-Abyssinian War. His arrest after World War II was related to his cooperation with German forces in defense of the RSI - not actions taken during any previous campaigns. While he was no doubt responsible for civilian deaths in these conflicts, it's blatant POV to label one a war criminal (or perpetrator of any crime) without a conviction or even an indictment. --NEMT 04:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thereofore the unsourced claim should be immediately removed, if still in the article with no sources. Bogorm (talk) 11:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect. Just because some system of justice never did what was necessary doesn't free one from being a war criminal when the evidence is abundant and unquestionably obvious. Quite a few monsters have escaped arrest and trial, for whatever disgusting reasons. All statements must still be sourced, however. To quote the Beeb: >> He was notorious as Benito Mussolini's military commander in colonial wars in Ethiopia and Libya where he carried out massacres and used chemical weapons. Italy's main leftist party has protested against the commemoration."Is it possible to allow, accept or simply tolerate that, in 2012, we dedicate a park and a museum to the fascist general and minister Rodolfo Graziani?" asked Esterino Montino, head of the Democratic Party in the Lazio region. <<50.111.24.39 (talk) 20:47, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

How ridiculous, It is like claiming Hitler is not a war criminal because he was never formally convicted for anything he did. Graziani was clearly, even by the most stringent standards, a vicious war criminal and a cutthroat without personal honor, perfectly in line with conservatives of that time who all supported colonialism and massacring anyone opposing rule by European conservatives. European conservatism, with its support for slavery and colonization is the most murderous ideology of all time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.248.70.40 (talk) 22:42, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

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Relation to Tony

The bottom of the article states that he is related to former Arena Football League quarterback Tony Graziani. Name aside, is there proof somewhere? 199.20.68.40 (talk) 18:03, 9 July 2012

The monument

In favour of the monument were many local supporters, not necessarily fascists. They believed that he was anyway a well known man also abroad and that the monument would attract tourists.--2.235.205.37 (talk) 16:11, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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