Talk:Hungarian Workers' Party

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i think it's an exaggeration to say that this party "has always opposed capitalism". that's not quite the case. i mean if you look at the platform it's just a reformist socialdemocratic one. raising taxes, spending more on health care, education, pensions, transit and such. maybe some nationalizations, but they're not really calling for that, by no means total at least. so the platform is not a communist one , that's for sure. but all this is irrelevant. because everyone knows in Hungary, and sociological studies has also shown this, that what holds together these people has nothing to do with proposed policies, but rather just nostalgia for the kádár years, for "the good old days" of police terror, censorship, state monopoly of the press, free beer on may day and so on. this is obvious when you take a look at the voting block of Munkáspárt - it is extremely old, and almost totally made up of former party members and apparatchiks. the party's platform in itself is the most left-wing in the country and in spite of this (and contrary to other such parties in Europe) they have no young voters at all, for the same reasons again. i think that these things should be mentioned in the article.

Munkaspart have young voters. I've met them myself. --Soman 21:42, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

young voters

of course it has some young voters, obviously i didn't mean to suggest that the number of them is exactly 0. but the proportion of youngsters in the voting block of munkáspárt is extremely low, almost zero. i'm quite sure that it is the lowest percentage in comparison with all (significant) other parties in Hungary. in radical left/green parties of western europe, US etc. you find exactly the opposite. the reason for this is quite clear IMHO, as i tried to describe. i also think that this is the most important fact about munkáspárt (namely that it's a nostalgia party and not a radical leftist group) so maybe it should be mentioned in the article. of course it can become a radical leftist party once in the future (and there are some indications for that), but right now it has really nothing to do with that, just take a look at their paper or website (it's full of stories of the good ol' days, no connections with radical groups of the west, on the other hand they did have some with milosevics, saddam hussein - hardly socialist figures, to say the least...). (BTW i'm hungarian and under 25 and i've never met or seen young voters of MP. of course i acknowledge the fact that there are some, but it's very rare). at least that's what i recall (about the age structure of their voters), but correct me if i'm wrong about the figures.

Look, I think you do have points in what you write. My main experience with Munkaspart is that I participated at a summer camp of their youth wing (Balodali Front) 3 years ago. However, if the argument should be included in the article, there needs to be some certification or source, such as from detailed opinion polls or statistic on age of party members. --Soman 09:23, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

split?

The following was added today by an anon user "Hey people! It's time to change the title, because the party broke away to two parts: "Hungarian Communist Workers' Party", led by Gyula Thürmer, and "Workers' Party of Hungary 2006", led by János Fratanoló."

I haven't heard any detailed info on this, but on the Munkaspart website the name 'Hungarian Communist Workers Party' is used on the front page but seemingly not on other pages. Was there a decision to change the name on the 20th Congress held recently? --Soman 23:37, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My Hungarian is not so great but these text seems to point at it: "2005. november 12-én ülést tartott a Munkáspárt Központi Bizottsága.

A Pártszavazást Ellenörző Bizottság tájékoztatta a Központi Bizottságot arról, hogy a július 25-i határozata alapján lezajlott a szavazás a párt névváltoztatásáról, miszerint a párt új neve: Magyar Kommunista Munkáspárt.

A Pártszavazást Ellenörző Bizottság jelentése szerint a párt tagságának 71%-a szavazott arról, hogy megváltoztassa-e a Munkáspárt a nevét. Ebből 99 % szavazott érvényesen.

A Magyar Kommunista Munkáspárt névre igennel szavazott a szavazók 78 %-a, nemmel 17 %. Nem szavazott a szavazólapon 4 %.

A Központi Bizottság megbízta a párt Elnökségét, hogy a bíróságon jelentse be a párt új nevét.

A Központi Bizottság ezenkívül összehívta a Munkáspárt 21. kongresszusát 2005. december 17-re.

A KB visszahívta elnöskégi tagságából Fratanolo Jánost, megszavazta a párt országos listáját a jövő évi országgyűlési választásokon.

A Munkáspárt önállóan indul, mind a 176 körzetben a következő országgyűlési választásokon. A 2006-os parlamenti választásokon induló képviselőjelöltjei ezen a napon írták alá a „szerződésüket” a Munkáspárttal, és a KB ülésen bemutatásra kerültek." --Soman 23:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Referendum on NATO membership

The Parlament did indeed block the referendum of the Worker's Party on December 18, 1995, by this decision. There are two forms of referenda in Hungary, bounding and non-bounding with different rules. Also, there can be no referendum concerning (among others) matters of international treaties. Kope (talk) 16:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]