Talk:8:30

Confusing track list

There are different versions of the track list for this album, which makes it difficult to talk about songs by referring them to their order in the track list. The main text says that "tracks 10-13 were studio recorded". However, the track list currently shown in the article was probably obtained from a vinyl/LP release, with 4 sides, and does not have a track associated with the number '10', '11' or '13'. Moreover, if one looks up the track list of a CD release (e.g. in Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/8-30-Weather-Report/dp/B0000029FR), one finds that there is no track 13. Please refer to the tracks by their names, e.g. 'Brown street' instead of 'track 10'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rnanfe (talk • contribs) 23:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

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First live album?

"8:30 is the tenth and first live album by the jazz fusion group Weather Report." Compare Live in Tokyo. 217.38.84.34 (talk) 10:25, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Infobox: recording venue

The infobox says that the live material was taped in Santa Monica, in November '78: no source cited. The album credits say January-February 1979 - and also, I remember reading in a few interviews with Shorter and somebody else around the band that all or most of the live recordings were from a gig in Phoenix, not California.188.151.235.54 (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

The source cited for the recording date in the infobox says that, according to Zawinul, "Ninety per cent of the music on the 8:30 album was from the very first concert in Long Beach which was magic", and gives a date of 24 November 1978 for that concert. It sources this claim on Bruton, Hugo, “Weather Report: Hugo Bruton Forecasts Long Balmy Periods,” International Musician and Recording World, January 1981, pp. 51-53. I have no access to this original source, so I cannot confirm that it is accurate or trustworthy, of course. And, sure, Long Beach is near Santa Monica, but it is not the same place. The same source mentions some recordings at a Phoenix concert, too, but one of them was accidentally erased and the other, released in a later album; in any case, that concert took place in late November, too.--Gorpik (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Maybe the source is wrong. It happens. All sources make mistakes.
Vmavanti (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Christgau review

Why is Robert Christgau (and only he!) cited as a reviewer on this and practically every single 70s-80s rock/pop/soul album or anything bordering those genres? Weather Report and jazz fusion in general is a kind of music he obviously detested and he understood nothing of it, nor did the crowds who loved and supported WR care a jot for Christgau's reactionary "only-back-to-basics rock" philosophy. The album has been widely acclaimed for invention and melodic/ improvisational power by lots of other critics. 188.151.235.54 (talk) 20:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

A fair question. I didn't add it. I never add reviews to articles.
Vmavanti (talk) 22:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

First sentence

"8:30 is the tenth album of the jazz fusion group Weather Report issued in 1979 by ARC/Columbia Records"

According to this sentence, ARC/Columbia issued at least ten albums by Weather Report in 1979. Ten albums by the same band in the same year? Wow. The tenth was 8:30.
Vmavanti (talk) 22:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

I added the missing comma.--Gorpik (talk) 12:56, 7 September 2020 (UTC)