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2005 English cricket season

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I'm all for posting the results of the matches here, but I don't think we really need to be featuring it so prominently... after all, Major League Baseball is well underway here in the States, and we don't give it that kind of coverage (with the picture and the "Featured Season" thing)... -- 68.12.106.243 22:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

World champions?

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(Oh dear, why do I get this odd feeling that I should steer clear of this topic...) Why are the Superbowl winners being called World Champions? Generally speaking this term implies some international competition: there are of course American Football leagues outside of the United States. -- Avaragado 09:07, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The term "World Champions" has been applied to the winner of a game or series between the champions of two seperate leagues in the United States. The first Super Bowl was played between the champions of the NFL and the American Football League, and the winners, the Green Bay Packers, were declared "World Champions". Even though it's not a true "world" title, the name has stuck, even after the two leagues merged. Also, I seriously doubt that a team from a league outside of the US would be able to hang with the Patriots. -- 68.12.101.60 01:03, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Maybe not: but when was the last game between a US team and non-US team? -- Avaragado 09:07, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I've never been a big fan of 'world' being a synonym for 'United States' in sports, although I can accept it when it's the recognized name of the event (like the World Series). But I usually don't edit it out, simply because I'm not going to tie myself in knots over something so small and I'm probably in the minority anyway. And, incidentally, it should be noted that just because New England is the best team in the world doesn't make them the champions, so long as there are major, non-affiliated leagues in other countries not competing. Lord Bob 14:08, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
Virtually everyone would agree that the NFL is the top league in American football (despite the objections of a few hardcore Canadians, and even still, I think Canadian football is different enough that it should be considered seperately). The only other professional league I can think of is NFL Europe, which is mostly a developmental league for American players. Therefore, despite the fact that all the teams are in one country, the winner of the Super Bowl should be regarded as the world champions.
And while I'm at it, why is the NFL called "American football" on this page while soccer is just "football"? I know about the efforts to get rid of Americocentrism on here, but isn't this just the opposite problem? Kirjtc2 02:09, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Last time I saw any discussion of the latter point, it was agreed that we'd qualify both sports: so "American football" and "Football (soccer)" are the correct forms, and if you see an unqualified "football" feel free to fix it. -- Avaragado 21:53, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

2004-05 NHL season

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I think there's a reason to delete the above link because, as you may or may not know, it has been canceled because of the ongoing labor dispute. Anyone else agree? JB82 21:16, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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