Talk:Scott Niedermayer

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Devils captain succession box

Because 'Scott Stevens' captaincy is viewed as having ended in September 2005 with his retirement (not Jan 2004, since he last played in the NHL), Elias is not listed as Niedermayer's immediate successor. GoodDay 19:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Collection of Achievements

It probably bears mentioning that, as of 2005, Scott Niedermayer is "the only player in the game who has won a Stanley Cup (three of them), an Olympic gold medal, a World Cup, World Championship, World Junior Championship and Memorial Cup titles." (From http://www.nhl.com/columns/wigge/niedermayer042706.html) Mojo Tooth 23:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, he recently was awarded the Conn Smythe trophy. Mojo Tooth 21:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added that to the lead paragraph, as I think it is appropriate there to get the major info in place. Leafschik1967 (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Secret (talk · contribs) 17:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing.... Secret ^account 17:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely written article, here is some stuff that I noticed.

"Niedermayer has earned numerous accolades in recognition of his career." Instead of "in recognition", is it better simply to say throughout?
Is the BC Hockey Hall of Fame really notable for inclusion? Most state/providence sport Hall of Fame's are usually not, especially for a lead mention.
"At the 1992 Memorial Cup, he scored seven points in five tournament games...." "Tournament" is redundant, remove.
"scored his first NHL goal on November 8, 1992, on goaltender Brian Hayward".... On should be against.
"appeared in 80 games scoring 11 goals" missing comma
"and added 4 points in 20 playoff games.." Be consistent in numbers under 10.
I've been told in previous reviews that consistency within a sentence is more important. I've no problem changing it if you insist, but it would leave me more than a little confused as to just what the standard should be! Reso lute 21:49, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Niedermayer's best season in New Jersey came in 1997–98" I presume you meant best statistical season, as he won a Norris Trophy later in his career which can be considered as his "best season". Reword.
"set franchise records in 2006–07 for most wins (48) and points (110)." Confused with the use of "points" here, like in scoring?
I've re-linked Point (ice hockey) there since "point" can have three different meanings in hockey, depending on context. In this case, it reflects the Ducks' W-L-T record. Reso lute 21:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The pair were both named..." Awkward redundancy better as "Both were named...
"Coming off his fourth championship, the 34-year-old Niedermayer contemplated retirement." Why?
Found nothing definitive. The best explanation is that he was 34 and won his fourth title. Probably thought there wasn't much left to do. But that's only my speculation. Reso lute 21:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Niedermayer earned a reputation for inconsistency early in his career." - Can you clarify it a tad more, the next sentence doesn't explain why.
"He is an honoured member..." Grammar, and I think honoured is redundant in this case because of the first sentence in the paragraph "Niedermayer has been honoured..." mention the word so remove.
"The family resides in Newport Beach, California, but spent the off-seasons in Cranbrook" - grammar
References 27, 46, 48, 54, 56 needs to be consistent with the other HighBeam references.
References 37 and 50 are dead links.
Dead within the last two weeks too, ugh. I think they'll come back, since all ESPN game story links are currently broken, but I have replaced the two in this article. Reso lute 21:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 58 has the author listed in the bottom.
I'm sure reference 65 has a SI Vault link somewhere online.
It actually doesn't, not that I can find anyway. The story is from a commemorative issue that I suspect was released only in Canada. The magazine isn't even dated. Reso lute 21:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the review and the comments! I have tried to address all points, with specific notes above where necessary. Thanks! Reso lute 21:41, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok good enough, passing Secret ^account 22:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]